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Must our identity be tied to the Monarchy? What are the benefits? What are the disadvantages? Would Kevin Rudd make a great first president?
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Joined: 3/30/2008 Posts: 110 Location: Seattle, WA (USA)
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Well, this is one of those issues that really comes down to personal opinion. I believe strongly that Australia should be a republic, but I think the model needs to be carefully considered (and it is far too premature to discuss potential candidates - and certainly not such politically aligned candidates at this stage).
I would love to see a republic where the president is chosen by a majority of the votes from an assembly of all Federal and State MPs & senators. We shouldn't directly elect a president otherwise it'll simply become a popularity contest, but we should look for bipartisan leadership from our elected leaders to settle upon the best candidate for a presidential role.
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I'd like to know the pros/cons for dumping the monarchy - anyone can advise?
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I'm not quite sure what the various models are but I understand that in some legal cases a British court can overturn Australian judgments . There was some work to try to tidy that up some years ago.
Then again people appeal to the international courts as well.
So there is a whole legal issue - legislation etc.
As well some Australians have inherited British titles and positions because of the link as well.
Obviously there needs to be some sort of democratic model. The sort of populist leader model we have now is almost republican in style and tending to become american style election campaigns
Its all about checks and balances really so that too much power doesn't reside in one person - because powers tends to corrupt people. Hence the senate and the role of the governor general.
Probably the simplest thing (without making too much change) would be to either elect or appoint a person to be the governor general - rather than getting the queens permission.
The governor general should not have too much power - should be able to host visiting heads of state, do community work, sign in parliaments (as a formality) and ratify bills (as a formality). The discretionary powers should be limited to dissolving parliament and triggering elections - in EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES - hung parliaments, wide scale rioting and turmoil, war etc.
Its really the legislation changes and the election processes which are the issue.
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Ah yes - but do we want the simplest thing, or the right thing (assuming they're not the same)?
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A republic? ....What do you think the difference would be? Freedom? Security? Honesty in the media?.....hahaha! I can see the pigs flying past my window now...they've got little purple spots on their wings! In reality a republic would mean just more men I dont know telling me what to do, denying my adult right to assume full responsibility for my actions while making irresponsible decisions on my behalf!!! Frankly, I'm tired of hierarchical structures of governance.
This might come as a 'shocking' thought for some, but how about we just get rid of the lot of them and get on with being grown-ups! Lets take full responsibility for the decisions we make and their possible impacts on future generations; and lets toss out all the statutes and acts, all the law books and lawyers, and replace the lot with one simple directive: DO NO HARM After 15 years professional researching of the various governance, economic and communications systems world wide, I have come to the conclusion that if we want to survive we MUST change drastically and that the most drastic change we whites in particular could make is to GROW UP AND TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY and that if we were to do that then we had better make the rules really simple and equitable!
Indigenous people around the world ALL understand the 'do no harm' principle as foundational - it just seems to be we whites who 'miss the point' in our rush to tell the rest of the world how to live.
A republic?...I dont think so... I'd rather be an adult!
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Responding to Jon Pearson:Good news! For a long while our legal system has been divorced from the United Kingdom. Our legislation cannot be altered by the British Parliament and there are no appeals to the Privy Council. It would not be simple to elect the Governor-General. Under current arrangements, the GG is involved in the administration of government and must accept the lawful advice of the Prime Minister. An elected GG would have a mandate from the people that would soon be in conflict with accepting such advice. Without extensive new written rules, this would not work. In fact, the simplest approach is to elect the Head of State. The Queen has no practical executive role in Australia, except to appoint governors. This means having an Australian elected as Head of State would be ideal, as they can represent the people of Australia without involvement with any government. Likewise, the government would not be able to interfere with the independence of the Head of State. If this were done, Australia would have an elected, independent Head of State who could invest their time in our civic institutions - our charities, our community organisations. When overseas, the Head of State would promote Australian science, innovation and culture. If you think about it, this is why the Queen is a popular figure in the UK. It's because she promotes civic society. Australia would benefit from a distinguished Australian doing the same job here, but more effectively because they were elected as the best person for the task. (see the Copernican Republic Forum for more infomation)
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